Curse

akurun · Nov 02, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen

edru, you know as well as i pvx is going down and not up

but i agree people underestimate it

No, I'm a good deal more skeptical about PvXwiki than most people, usually, but lately, it has, imo, actually been improving due to more knowledgable players beginning to contribute(Ensign, for example), among other factors.

Ears of the Woods · Dec 02, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

pvxwiki's pve section is major lol, a pve builds section is major fail. otherwise, we have a few meta builds documented and shitty team builds all around

Desires · Dec 02, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I go there only to laugh at the sheer amount of fail.

silv3rr · Dec 02, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

I'm sure most of the people that have claimed they don't visit that site all the time

I for one use it all the time for my heroes for general builds that I can just load up on them when questing... but when I hit a mission where I find I failed miserable, then I think about what went wrong and change up the builds skill by skill... and if that's still fails, I load up info on what it is I'm doing to see what I'm up against.

I usually run with garbage builds at first... not even wiki builds, just garbage builds until I hit level 20... wiki builds usually don't run on non-level 20s that well 'cause of the stat distribution and all... that way I can get a feel of how the class works then start creating builds. If they turn out to be crap, I'll take a look around PvX for inspiration.

And honestly, most of the time, the builds I do come up with, there are similar crap on PvX... especially for my assassin. Crit Agi + Crit Def + Moebius + DB... fill in the rest.

In terms of PvP, I usually run my own builds, people almost expect to run into wiki builds so they build according to those, so it's easy to counter.

The ones (not all but most...) that say they come here for help makes me laugh... "NEED GOOD X/X BUILD"

BLOODGOAT · Dec 02, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

I use the farming builds but that's about it. Y'know, 600/Smite, 55/SS, duos/trios, but when it comes down to actual PvE play, I can't stand playing any of the builds they have.

You can't see me · Dec 02, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

I use a fair of their builds and find them effective. Flame me for using builds that have been proven effective by a group of experienced testers, that are 0% Fail, if you use the good and great working ones.

My Favorites:

~Terra Tank
~PvP Team- E Denial Balenced
~Destroyer Core Mission Solo

Traveller · Dec 02, 2007, 06:56 PM // 18:56

I sometimes go there and generally look for new ideas and inspiration. Most of the time, though, I try to come up with good build ideas with good synergy on my own.

iridescentfyre · Dec 02, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Once in a while I'll grab a farming build from Wiki. For general play, I use a lot of builds that others use as well, so I'm quite sure they're on Wiki in one variation or another. I guess I don't see where the stigma about PvX comes from... I've been playing nearly since launch--I know the game and I know my professions. I'm not going to lose sleep because something I use might appear on wiki someday.

mazey vorstagg · Dec 02, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

I use it as inspiration, then go and make my own. But pretty useful overall I'd say

Bowstring Badass · Dec 02, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Why would I when I can just go to ab and bring my cripshot and laugh at the fail there....

iridescentfyre · Dec 02, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Why would I when I can just go to ab and bring my cripshot and laugh at the fail there....

You mean this one?

This is why I fail to see why Wiki has such a stigma to it. There's plenty of garbage there, but pretty much the best builds of the current meta are likely to end up there as well. I use that Cripshot build too, though I didn't need PvX to show it to me.

Earth · Dec 02, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

I admit: I use it. But only to get a feel of the class if I'm still new to it - After that, never again.

Swift Thief · Dec 02, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

About 1/3 of my builds come from there.

Skuld · Dec 02, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

For the most part, it's a gigantic e-peen-waving scrubfest.

Tyla · Dec 02, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

meh.
i very rarely use it,and usually if i want a certain build and not pvx it,i turn to observe and learn more about that pvp style at the same time.
so i'll say research

but saying alot of wiki builds suck and usually if theyre half decent its being used on observe,why would you need it anyway?
cripshot is already a base bar you would know of and is fairly easy to imagine up anyway.
SP is also the same as cripshot.
as is burning arrow.
with a long stream of the same reasons.

IlikeGW · Dec 02, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

They seem to have a lot of super old HA ideas recycled into other things. It may work but I find in practice builds there are often terribly lacking in fine tuning.

ensoriki · Dec 02, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Farming builds section.

Looked at hero's once for Zenmai, when I first got her >.> cus I was going Why does she suck?

so the answer.
Specifically for farming.

dread pirate fargus · Dec 02, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

double faction weekend... if i want to get the most out of it then i dont want to just play one or two builds i made myself, over and over again. i borrowed a few nice wiki builds, added a few personal touches to them and jumped straight back into AB with minimal testing required.

also some of the builds i kind of came up with on my own had very similar variations posted on the wiki, like the conjure cripslash is allmost exactly the same as a ab warrior build i use apart from 1 skill and different attribute points.... completely by accident lol.

Perkunas · Dec 02, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

The first time I played a class, I would go to Wiki to see what type of skills are used in different situations. Less time needed for trial and error. Wiki gives a good starting point.

ravensong · Dec 02, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Only for heroes If I dont have character of that profession.